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Forever Giants:1960 San Francisco Giants Year 3 (78)

Thursday, January 29, 2015

1959 is here.

My WAR calculation is a combination of Baseball-reference and Clay Davenport; I believe it to be the "best" WAR number available for historical comparison. 8 WAR is an MVP quality season. The parenthetical is a career Giants WAR total with the eventual goal of a top 100 Giants of all time. The record is pythagorean adjusted for 162 games.


1960 85-77
C Bob Schmidt  .85 (2.4)
1B Willie McCovey 1.6 (5.2)
2B Don Blasingame 1.1
SS Eddie Bressoud  1.3 (2.45)
3B Jim Davenport .85  (1.45)
LF Orlando Cepeda 4.1 (12.3)
CF Willie Mays 8.55 MVPQ  (65.8)
RF Willie Kirkland 2.45 (5.5)
IF Joey Amalfitano 1.4
OF Felipe Alou  .75 (2.55)
IF Andre Rodgers .35 (1.4)
C Hobie Landrith .1 (1.95)
1B Jim Marshall -.1
SP Mike McCormick  6.25 (7.75)
SP Sam Jones 1.8  (7.3)
SP Billy O’Dell 3.5
SP Jack Sanford  1.2 (4.65)
SP Juan Marichal 1.85
RP Johnny Antonelli  1.25 (33.35) Last Season
RP Stu Miller .85 (10.15)

-Oldest person to debut as a manager, Tom Sheehan, a Giants scout who took over from Rigney at midseason.  Marichal also debuts in the Giants first season at Candlestick. Antonelli was public about his dislike of playing in San Francisco and this is his last season.

Forever Giants 
1. Christy Mathewson SP 103.35
2. Mel Ott RF 101.7 
3. Carl Hubbell SP 67.05
4. Roger Connor 1B 56.9
5. Bill Terry 1B 53.05
6. Amos Rusie P 52.95
7. Travis Jackson SS 47.25
8. Art Fletcher SS 4.5.3
9. George Davis SS 44.15
10. Mike Tiernan RF 42.1

11. Mickey Welch P 41.55
12. Buck Ewing C 40.9
13. Larry Doyle 2B 37.15
14. Frankie Frisch 2B 36.8
15. Hal Schumacher SP 36.6
16. Johnny Antonelli SP 33.35 (22.3 NY, 10.05 SFG)
17. George Burns LF 31.1
18. Art Devlin 3B 30.7
19. Joe McGinnity P 29.35
20. Tim Keefe P 29.05 

21. Johnny Mize 1B 28.85
22. Freddie Fitzsimmons P 28.6
23. Dick Bartell SS 27
24. Roger Bresnahan C 26
25. Alvin Dark SS 25.25
26. Ross Youngs RF 25.25 
27. High Pockets Kelly 1B 25.5
28. Jeff Tesreau SP 24.4
29. Jouett Meekin P 24.25
30. Hooks Wiltse P 23.95

31. Hank Thompson 3B 23.75
32. Sal Maglie P 23.45
33. Freddie Lindstrom 3B 23
34. George Van Haltren CF 22.1
35. Bobby Thomson CF 21.75
36. Chief Meyers C 20.85

Forever Giants:1959 San Francisco Giants Year Two (77)

Wednesday, January 28, 2015

1958 is here.

My WAR calculation is a combination of Baseball-reference and Clay Davenport; I believe it to be the "best" WAR number available for historical comparison. 8 WAR is an MVP quality season. The parenthetical is a career Giants WAR total with the eventual goal of a top 100 Giants of all time. The record is pythagorean adjusted for 162 games.



1959 91-71
C Hobie Landrith  1.85
1B Orlando Cepeda 4.7 (8.2)
2B Daryl Spencer 2.65 (7.6)
SS Eddie Bressoud 1.85 (1.15)
3B Jim Davenport .6 (1.6)
LF Jackie Brandt 1.65
CF Willie Mays 7.2 (57.25)
RF Willie Kirkland 2.6 (3.05)
RF Felipe Alou .85 (1.8)
SS Andre Rodgers  1.05
1B Willie McCovey  3.6
C Bob Schmidt  -.05 (1.55)
LF Leon Wagner .7 (2.35)
SP Johnny Antonelli  5.15 (32.1)
SP Sam Jones 5.5
SP Mike McCormick .6 (1.5)
SP Jack Sanford 3.45
RP Stu Miller 2.4 (9.3)
RP Eddie Fisher -2

-McCovey arrives and San Francisco gets a pennant race.  It's the best Giants club since the Series title four years prior. 

Forever Giants 
1. Christy Mathewson SP 103.35
2. Mel Ott RF 101.7 
3. Carl Hubbell SP 67.05
4. Roger Connor 1B 56.9
5. Bill Terry 1B 53.05
6. Amos Rusie P 52.95
7. Travis Jackson SS 47.25
8. Art Fletcher SS 4.5.3
9. George Davis SS 44.15
10. Mike Tiernan RF 42.1

11. Mickey Welch P 41.55
12. Buck Ewing C 40.9
13. Larry Doyle 2B 37.15
14. Frankie Frisch 2B 36.8
15. Hal Schumacher SP 36.6
16. George Burns LF 31.1
17. Art Devlin 3B 30.7
18. Joe McGinnity P 29.35
19. Tim Keefe P 29.05 
20. Johnny Mize 1B 28.85

21. Freddie Fitzsimmons P 28.6
22. Dick Bartell SS 27
23. Roger Bresnahan C 26
24. Alvin Dark SS 25.25
24. Ross Youngs RF 25.25 
26. High Pockets Kelly 1B 25.5
27. Jeff Tesreau SP 24.4
28. Jouett Meekin P 24.25
29. Hooks Wiltse P 23.95
30. Hank Thompson 3B 23.75

31. Sal Maglie P 23.45
32. Freddie Lindstrom 3B 23
33. George Van Haltren CF 22.1
34. Bobby Thomson CF 21.75
35. Chief Meyers C 20.85

Here are the best seasons at each position for the 1950s followed by the best Giant season to that date.

C Wes Westrum 1950 (4.5)
(Buck Ewing 1884 6.5)
1B Orlando Cepeda 1959 (4.7)
(Roger Connor 1885 8.95)
2B Eddie Stanky 1950 (8.05)
(Rogers Hornsby 1927 9.65)
SS Alvin Dark 1951 (6.55)
Dave Bancroft 1921/Travis Jackson 1929/Dick Bartell 1937 (7.15)
3B Hank Thompson 1950 (5.35)
(Mel Ott 1938 9.55)
LF Monte Irvin 1953 (6)
Monte Irvin 1953 (6) 
CF Willie Mays 1954 (10.2)
Willie Mays 1954 10.2
RF Willie Kirkland 1959 (2.6)
(Mel Ott 1932 7.85)
SP Johnny Antonelli 1954 (7.25)
(Christy Mathewson 1908 12.2)
RP Marv Grissom 1954 (4.05
Ferdie Schupp 1916/Marv Grissom 1954 4.05

Here are all the MVPQ seasons in Giants history.
1. Welch P 1884 9.05
2. Rusie P 1893 9.8
3. Rusie P 1894 10.85
4. Meekin P 1894 8.75
5. Mathewson P 1901 8.85
6. McGinnity P 1903 9.15
7. Mathewson P 1903 8.7
8. McGinnity P 1904 8.95
9. Mathewson P 1905 9.8
10. Mathewson P 1908 12.2
11. Mathewson P 1909 10.75
12. Mathewson P 1910 8.5
13. Hornsby 2B 1927 9.65
14. Terry 1B 1930 8
15. Hubbell P 1932 8.05
16. Hubbell P 1933 10.2
17. Hubbell P 1936 9.85
18. Ott 3B 1938 9.55
19. Stanky 2B 1950 8.05 
20 Mays CF 1954 10.2
21. Mays CF 1955 9.35
22. Mays CF 1957 8.4
23. Mays CF 1958 9.8

And here are the worst Giants seasons ever.
C Jack Boyle 1892 -2.2  
1B John Ganzel 1901 -3.4
2B Joe Gerhardt 1886 -3
SS George Davis 1903 -1.5
3B Travis Jackson 1936 -1.85
LF Dusty Rhodes 1957 -1.65
CF Johnny Rucker 1944 -3.75
RF Don Mueller 1957 -2.6
P Fred Anderson 1916 -3.1
RP Eddie Fisher 1959 -2

A Daniel Bryan Curiosity

Tuesday, January 27, 2015

In my preview to the Rumble, I noted that the publication of Daniel Bryan's book was moved from summer to the week after Mania.  I beat Meltzer to that one (by like a couple of hours, but still).

My reading of that (in conjunction with Mania being in the Bay Area, considering the Yes Chant's likelihood of being over with Giants fans) was really positive for Bryan's chances at Mania (and, as a corollary, at the Rumble).

Obviously, that prediction looks worse now.  Further, today, I've become aware (scooooooooops!) that the book would, in fact, be released in late July after all.

Too conspiratorial to think that the early release date was a pre-Rumble swerve?  A booking change (pun intended)?  Or the mechanism involved in publishing a book just can't be that intertwined with creative and the timing is just coincidental?  



Forever Giants:1958 San Francisco Giants Year One (76)

1957 is here.

My WAR calculation is a combination of Baseball-reference and Clay Davenport; I believe it to be the "best" WAR number available for historical comparison. 8 WAR is an MVP quality season. The parenthetical is a career Giants WAR total with the eventual goal of a top 100 Giants of all time. The record is pythagorean adjusted for 162 games.


1958 84-78
C Bob Schmidt  1.6
1B Orlando Cepeda  3.5
2B Danny O’Connell  1.3 (3.4)
SS Daryl Spencer 4.1 (4.95)
3B Jimmy Davenport 1
LF Hank Sauer .35 (.75)
CF Willie Mays 9.8 MVPQ (50.05)
RF Willie Kirkland .45
3B Ray Jablonski .1 (2)
LF Leon Wagner 1.65
LF Felipe Alou  .95
C Valmy Thomas .55 (1.45)
2B Eddie Bressoud -.1 (-.75)
Uti Whitey Lockman -.25 (15.2)
SP Johnny Antonelli 4.65 (26.95)
SP Ruben Gomez 1.7 (16.4)
SP Mike McCormick .35 (.9)
SP Stu Miller 4.8 (6.9)
RP Marv Grissom .3 (11.35)
RP Al Worthington 1.65 (5.6)
RP Ramon Monzant -.3

-The Giants move to Seals Stadium and have their best season since '55. Cepeda, Davenport, and Felipe Alou all have their first seasons. Mays has his best year since '54. 

Forever Giants 
1. Christy Mathewson SP 103.35
2. Mel Ott RF 101.7 
3. Carl Hubbell SP 67.05
4. Roger Connor 1B 56.9
5. Bill Terry 1B 53.05
6. Amos Rusie P 52.95
7. Travis Jackson SS 47.25
8. Art Fletcher SS 4.5.3
9. George Davis SS 44.15
10. Mike Tiernan RF 42.1

11. Mickey Welch P 41.55
12. Buck Ewing C 40.9
13. Larry Doyle 2B 37.15
14. Frankie Frisch 2B 36.8
15. Hal Schumacher SP 36.6
16. George Burns LF 31.1
17. Art Devlin 3B 30.7
18. Joe McGinnity P 29.35
19. Tim Keefe P 29.05 
20. Johnny Mize 1B 28.85

21. Freddie Fitzsimmons P 28.6
22. Dick Bartell SS 27
23. Roger Bresnahan C 26
24. Alvin Dark SS 25.25
24. Ross Youngs RF 25.25 
26. High Pockets Kelly 1B 25.5
27. Jeff Tesreau SP 24.4
28. Jouett Meekin P 24.25
29. Hooks Wiltse P 23.95
30. Hank Thompson 3B 23.75

31. Sal Maglie P 23.45
32. Freddie Lindstrom 3B 23
33. George Van Haltren CF 22.1
34. Bobby Thomson CF 21.75
35. Chief Meyers C 20.85


Super Bowl 49 Pick

Monday, January 26, 2015

Seattle +1
Under 48.5
Brady attempts under 35.5
Brady completions under 23.5
Brady longest completion under 37.5
Total Points Gostkowski under 8.5

Wilson longest completion over 37.5

Seattle 24 NE 21

I'm 7-3 against the spread in the playoffs; a year ago, I gave you Seattle +2.5 in Super Bowl 48.

This is a very tight game; let me use a basketball metaphor - Seattle's pass defense dares the referees to blow the whistles, which, in championship games, they are understandably less likely to do.  To the extent "deflategate" matters, can we stipulate that the league, were they booking the game like a wrestling match (in the way the NBA has occasionally been accused of doing) they would not desire an outcome where the Patriots are holding the title (under inflating the footballs might not be a one off occurrence).  This isn't wrestling, however, were the Seahawks, as is their wont, to challenge the officials to throw the flags, maybe they aren't so eager to throw them.  

Were I in the Seattle camp (and I'm not - a year ago, for multiple reasons, I rooted for them, even as a Niner fan, this year, I'd like to see them lose in the most painful way possible) that would be my reading of the current political climate.  Rough up the Pats receivers, hold Gronkowski on every play like he's Shaq, dare the officials to keep throwing flags.  

That drives my game pick and most of the above prop selections.  

(Boyhood wins Best Picture - I'd be happy with it or Birdman, but my favorite movie was Whiplash)

If you're interested in my historical Super Bowl work - here it is

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